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I dont understand your ec reading mate it, is that water base 0.22 and your feeding a copmbined EC of 0.473 ?

What ec pen are you using ?

I think and it looks like your underfeeding tbh but as said im unsure on your readings.

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Well you are underfeeding imo but i`d like to look at your ec pen so i can suss it out.

How many ml per liter of what ferts are giving roughly ?
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grownnotflown420 wrote:
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:03 am

yea tropic mix lol


post a pic first and well see , maybe you can get on with soil nutes and calmag foliars hopefully though


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Hey Trex, heres the pic of the 2 babies, one on the left is the worse of the 2
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seems like , low RH with that canoeing going on , with overfert previously with the shiny leaves then burned a tad . with some nute splashing on leaves .

Id be tempted to make you do a run off test with ph and ec .
Make sure they are well calibrated @25C temperatures .

The soil specs list a CF is 14 which is an ec of 1.4 . could be hot soil doing it also .

So lets do a run off test just for to give an idea

What kind of lamp are you using and what height are they hung ?

it is also ideal at that plant stage not to flood the pot every watering , that soil holds alot of water eh , a watering aim for that size pot and plant is 2-3 days .


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So yes i think i have my head around your ec readings its us/cm = ec and not British which is what i undersatand easily, but yes iff that`s case and i think it really is then in English your feeding under 0.5 ec in total basically and if that`s combined with your background water ec then yes your way under feeding those plants now, i dont know why you would tghink it over ferting feeding such a low amount, you resally need to be upping your ec to overall around 0.8-0.9 or in us/cm = 800-900 in total asap and that`s an overall ec with water background included, plants starting to eatr itself man andis starving for ferts.

Iff those ferts are 2 part AnB type then to get that new EC reading were talking your feeding around 1.5ml per liter to around 2ml a liter and atmo you must be giving around under 1ml per liter.

Out of interest are you using a cheapo Chinese EC pen ?
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2-Scoops wrote:So yes i think i have my head around your ec readings its us/cm = ec and not British which is what i undersatand easily, but yes iff that`s case and i think it really is then in English your feeding under 0.5 ec in total basically and if that`s combined with your background water ec then yes your way under feeding those plants now, i dont know why you would tghink it over ferting feeding such a low amount, you resally need to be upping your ec to overall around 0.8-0.9 or in us/cm = 800-900 in total asap and that`s an overall ec with water background included, plants starting to eatr itself man andis starving for ferts. Iff your using AnB ferts then to get that new EC reading were talking your feeding around 1.5ml per liter to around 2ml a liter and atmo you must be giving around under 1ml per liter. Whatr fert brand are using out of interest ?

Out of interest are you using a cheapo Chinese EC pen ?
its the soil , its a combo of coco and peat with nutes , from the get go the soil has a CF of 14 , 1.4 ec


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2-Scoops wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:21 pm
I dont understand your ec reading mate it, is that water base 0.22 and your feeding a copmbined EC of 0.473 ?

What ec pen are you using ?

I think and it looks like your underfeeding tbh but as said im unsure on your readings.

ps
Well you are underfeeding imo but i`d like to look at your ec pen so i can suss it out.

How many ml per liter of what ferts are giving roughly ?
i measure in PPM dude not EC
so my base water is 22PPM
combined PPM once nutes mixed in is 473PPM


Here's my pen (if im allowed to post links, if not SORRY ADMINS):
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08 ... UTF8&psc=1
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Trex wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:36 pm
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:03 am

yea tropic mix lol


post a pic first and well see , maybe you can get on with soil nutes and calmag foliars hopefully though


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Hey Trex, heres the pic of the 2 babies, one on the left is the worse of the 2
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seems like , low RH with that canoeing going on , with overfert previously with the shiny leaves then burned a tad . with some nute splashing on leaves .

Id be tempted to make you do a run off test with ph and ec .
Make sure they are well calibrated @25C temperatures .

The soil specs list a CF is 14 which is an ec of 1.4 . could be hot soil doing it also .

So lets do a run off test just for to give an idea

What kind of lamp are you using and what height are they hung ?

it is also ideal at that plant stage not to flood the pot every watering , that soil holds alot of water eh , a watering aim for that size pot and plant is 2-3 days .


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will i be ok to water again today to do the run off test? or do i need to wait until i'm watering again?

you're right about it holding water!!!! fuck me! lol

what would you recommend trex? feed everytime i water with what? 2/3L in 15L pot?

I'll source a humidifier and chuck that in there along with a heater to push the temps up a few degs

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grownnotflown420 wrote:
2-Scoops wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:21 pm
I dont understand your ec reading mate it, is that water base 0.22 and your feeding a copmbined EC of 0.473 ?

What ec pen are you using ?

I think and it looks like your underfeeding tbh but as said im unsure on your readings.

ps
Well you are underfeeding imo but i`d like to look at your ec pen so i can suss it out.

How many ml per liter of what ferts are giving roughly ?
i measure in PPM dude not EC
so my base water is 22PPM
combined PPM once nutes mixed in is 473PPM


Here's my pen (if im allowed to post links, if not SORRY ADMINS):
ohhh ok , do you know if your meter is a .5 or a .7 factor , very inportant .

a .5 meter will give you a .95 ec , a tad high with a soil like that , even higher with a .7 meter


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Trex wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:09 pm

ohhh ok , do you know if your meter is a .5 or a .7 factor , very inportant .

a .5 meter will give you a .95 ec , a tad high with a soil like that , even higher with a .7 meter


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im not entirely sure tbh,

here it is mate
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08 ... UTF8&psc=1
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grownnotflown420 wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:04 pm
2-Scoops wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:21 pm
I dont understand your ec reading mate it, is that water base 0.22 and your feeding a copmbined EC of 0.473 ?

What ec pen are you using ?

I think and it looks like your underfeeding tbh but as said im unsure on your readings.

ps
Well you are underfeeding imo but i`d like to look at your ec pen so i can suss it out.

How many ml per liter of what ferts are giving roughly ?
i measure in PPM dude not EC
so my base water is 22PPM
combined PPM once nutes mixed in is 473PPM


Here's my pen (if im allowed to post links, if not SORRY ADMINS):
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08 ... UTF8&psc=1
Yes i still think they looking hungry and your underfeeding.

Basically get NPK of base ferts from back of your bottle. How many ml per liter of your base ferts are you giving roughly ?

Check run off ppm doing that will give me a rough idea how much ferts your medium is holding. Doing that you`ll soon get to bottom of whether its underfeeding or overfeeding
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2-Scoops wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:32 pm
grownnotflown420 wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:04 pm
2-Scoops wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:21 pm
I dont understand your ec reading mate it, is that water base 0.22 and your feeding a copmbined EC of 0.473 ?

What ec pen are you using ?

I think and it looks like your underfeeding tbh but as said im unsure on your readings.

ps
Well you are underfeeding imo but i`d like to look at your ec pen so i can suss it out.

How many ml per liter of what ferts are giving roughly ?
i measure in PPM dude not EC
so my base water is 22PPM
combined PPM once nutes mixed in is 473PPM


Here's my pen (if im allowed to post links, if not SORRY ADMINS):
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08 ... UTF8&psc=1
Yes i still think they looking hungry and your underfeeding.

Basically get NPK of base ferts from back of your bottle. How many ml per liter of your base ferts are you giving roughly ?

Check run off ppm doing that will give me a rough idea how much ferts your medium is holding. Doing that you`ll soon get to bottom of whether its underfeeding or overfeeding
Thanks Man

Fed with .5ml per litre of base ferts

do you know if i can give them more water to perform the run off? or shall i wait until theyre dry enough?

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