Tap Water

[seymore_budz]

To be honest I never let my tapwater go on roomtemp. Before I give it to my plants. Always cold water, contains more oxygen right? Warm water is a no go.

Nearly 90% of water is oxygen molecules.

I water at room temp, 20ish*C as cold water might shock the roots (cause them to contract etc), probably an old wives tale but it makes sense to me.

You're mixing things up mate by the sounds of it. Disolved oxygen isn't the same as the oxygen bonded to the hydrogen atoms.

But, it's still all bullshit in pots. You only need to worry in hydroponics. Under 18C, the plant starts to slow. I wouldn't go tip ice code water on them but I think the "shock" tail is bullshit :) DO drops off rapidly above 26C and is very low around 30C.

Here's a chart if you're interested.



DO will encourage aerobic bacteria and help keep root rot at bay though.

[seymore_budz]

Nearly 90% of water is oxygen molecules.

I water at room temp, 20ish*C as cold water might shock the roots (cause them to contract etc), probably an old wives tale but it makes sense to me.

You're mixing things up mate by the sounds of it. Disolved oxygen isn't the same as the oxygen bonded to the hydrogen atoms.

But, it's still all bullshit in pots. You only need to worry in hydroponics. Under 18C, the plant starts to slow. I wouldn't go tip ice code water on them but I think the "shock" tail is bullshit :) DO drops off rapidly above 26C and is very low around 30C.

Here's a chart if you're interested.



DO will encourage aerobic bacteria and help keep root rot at bay though.

Not mixing anything up GG.

In soil, coco - when you water you are actively pulling fresh (oxygen) air into the pots and dumping the stale air, that's why it's best to literally sling it in and let gravity do it's thing.

Cold temps on roots in hydro aint gonna be much different to cold temps in soil either. ?

Hydro is a different matter, this thread is about ph 7.5 water in soil.

For sure, I was responding to this statement as I thought it could be misleading.

Nearly 90% of water is oxygen molecules.

I completely agree, DO is not much of a comcern when growing in pots. I think people overthink the water temps when growing in pots. As long as it's not boiling or frozen, you ain't going to notice much difference. That's the whole point in growing in media right? So you don't have to worry about these issues.

[Dex]

Some fantastic info here and i fibally understand what the F this DO means now lol sorry for jot contributing much but great replies

[2-Scoops]

Have you thought about bumping up the microlife in your soil if growing organically ? Maybe that has summink to do with it cus ferts and organic stuff your using needs to be broken down before its usable by plant and tis microlife that does this and it maybe nothing to do with the water, just a suggestion. Possibly switching to mineral based ferts all together.

Would be a keen thing to look into if I need to use strict mineral baded nutes and not salt based ferts. I still havent ec checked the tap

I didnt buy any decent soil tho either. Just some cheap shit from Schultz thats already fertilized. The next potup will go into some foxfarm hopefully

Thats what i meant really Martin i shoulda explained myself better, chemical salt based minerals which are the synthetic man made kind.

[Mafooo]

Have you thought about bumping up the microlife in your soil if growing organically ? Maybe that has summink to do with it cus ferts and organic stuff your using needs to be broken down before its usable by plant and tis microlife that does this and it maybe nothing to do with the water, just a suggestion. Possibly switching to mineral based ferts all together.

Would be a keen thing to look into if I need to use strict mineral baded nutes and not salt based ferts. I still havent ec checked the tap

I didnt buy any decent soil tho either. Just some cheap shit from Schultz thats already fertilized. The next potup will go into some foxfarm hopefully

Thats what i meant really Martin i shoulda explained myself better, chemical salt based minerals which are the synthetic man made kind.

I fully understood ya buddy. One of these days Imma get to it. But seriously, my tap water is pH 9... anyone else dealing with this?

[seymore_budz]

Would be a keen thing to look into if I need to use strict mineral baded nutes and not salt based ferts. I still havent ec checked the tap

I didnt buy any decent soil tho either. Just some cheap shit from Schultz thats already fertilized. The next potup will go into some foxfarm hopefully

Thats what i meant really Martin i shoulda explained myself better, chemical salt based minerals which are the synthetic man made kind.

I fully understood ya buddy. One of these days Imma get to it. But seriously, my tap water is pH 9... anyone else dealing with this?

I've read a few. If your water is that alkaline, it might be worth looking into a filter maybe? What does it read on a TDS meter? 9 woulf suggeat your water is full of crap :)

[Neilw420]

I did my first ever grow with bottled water and had nothing but problems, now use tap water with no problems, just recently starting using the stuff to make tap water safe from ecothrive and not had one deficiency but I don’t leave my water to stand, does come from the loft tank though so not mains.

[Neilw420]

I did my first ever grow with bottled water and had nothing but problems, now use tap water with no problems, just recently starting using the stuff to make tap water safe from ecothrive and not had one deficiency but I don’t leave my water to stand, does come from the loft tank though so not mains.

Yea bottled water is normally full of Ca, Mg and Na and isn't suitable for growing plants. The neutralise from Ecosys is asorbic acid (vitamin C). It breaks the bond between chlorine and ammonia so both can evaporate. It happens relatively quickly and they can both evaporate pretty quick too. I'm not 100% convinced it's a necessary step after doing a little research but it won't hurt anything.

[Mafooo]

Thats what i meant really Martin i shoulda explained myself better, chemical salt based minerals which are the synthetic man made kind.

I fully understood ya buddy. One of these days Imma get to it. But seriously, my tap water is pH 9... anyone else dealing with this?

I've read a few. If your water is that alkaline, it might be worth looking into a filter maybe? What does it read on a TDS meter? 9 woulf suggeat your water is full of crap :)

Will be finishing that video u posted on water alkalinity this morning. Thanks I really need to get on this fixing my water issue. Its nuts here

[Neilw420]

I did my first ever grow with bottled water and had nothing but problems, now use tap water with no problems, just recently starting using the stuff to make tap water safe from ecothrive and not had one deficiency but I don’t leave my water to stand, does come from the loft tank though so not mains.

Yea bottled water is normally full of Ca, Mg and Na and isn't suitable for growing plants. The neutralise from Ecosys is asorbic acid (vitamin C). It breaks the bond between chlorine and ammonia so both can evaporate. It happens relatively quickly and they can both evaporate pretty quick too. I'm not 100% convinced it's a necessary step after doing a little research but it won't hurt anything.

Yea to be fair I was skeptical but used it for about 5 weeks and not had any deficiencies like normal but could be the new light aswell