Advanced nutrients Question

[TommyT]

Hi Party People!
I normally use Dyno-Gro but I am planning on trying Advanced nutrients.
I will be growing in soil and hand watering. I will also add Blackstrap molasses and mycorrhizal fungi periodically.
By the sounds of it from other questions people have asked. The general consensus is to start out slow with new nutrients and work into it.
So... instead of spending a bunch of money on stuff I don't need here is what I'm planning to get.
Advanced nutrients:
pH Perfect® Micro
pH Perfect® Grow
pH Perfect® Bloom
Big Bud®
Overdrive®

According to the website. With the hobbyist level I should add:
B-52 Fertilizer Booster for vitamins
Voodoo Juice for the roots

Any ideas on if I need those two above or if I need anything else?

TIA
Tommy

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B-52 Fertilizer Booster for vitamins
Voodoo Juice for the roots

Molasses and seaweed juice both full of goodies like vits and more at a fraction cost.

Big Bud®
Overdrive®

Seems to me like 2 pricey boosts doing same jobby. "Use in beginning of flowering and drop this for that one" don`t make me laugh, a nice little earner if i ever seen one, but who am i. Green Planets > Massive is a decent similar type boost at a fraction cost. Then again if your doing the ph perfect thing. Be alot cheaper to buy a £5`ver ph pen and some up and down ph`R .

Are you insistent on using Advanced ferts ?

[TommyT]

Are you insistent on using Advanced ferts ?

Not really. I've seen that they are good but expensive. So I wanted to try something good then compare. Are they really that good?
But I already have the:
1 liter - pH Perfect® Micro
1 liter - pH Perfect® Grow
1 liter - pH Perfect® Bloom
250 ml - Overdrive®

I was also looking at some nutrients from https://www.kelp4less.com/

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Are you insistent on using Advanced ferts ?

Not really. I've seen that they are good but expensive. So I wanted to try something good then compare. Are they really that good?
But I already have the:
1 liter - pH Perfect® Micro
1 liter - pH Perfect® Grow
1 liter - pH Perfect® Bloom
250 ml - Overdrive®

I was also looking at some nutrients from https://www.kelp4less.com/

They all do same job believe I've tried shit loads i now buy cheapest bottle base ferts usually Canna or Vitalink, but you`ll not notice a difference in end result at all you can buy very similar boosts etc a lot cheaper, that's straight from horses mouth as saying goes. If you`ve got them then cool get them used mate. But don't go crazy buying this and that from those conning fuckers, they only out to get your money. I've been looking at these guys for future purchases, i already bought their triacontanol booster which out of interest is in those 2 boosts you mention but 2ml to 10 liters. Anyhow get them used up. https://www.theplantgrowthcompany.com

I like silicon/silica/silicone/whatever and use cheapest again which is Growth Technology and i also like using fulvic acid but that`s got too pricey recently so they can fuck off and on a brighter note the organic guys who sponsor this place have started selling it at a fraction the cost.

End of shift some A&B base ferts and some pk13/14 will rock it up for you and grow monster buds as big as anything else. Maybe I'm getting old and too set in my ways.

[TommyT]

A&B base ferts and some pk13/14

When you say A&B base ferts. That's basically what these are. Right?
pH Perfect® Micro
pH Perfect® Grow
pH Perfect® Bloom

I don't really get what pk13/14 are though.
Is that what this is? https://www.kelp4less.com/shop/bud-hardener/

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A&B base ferts and some pk13/14

When you say A&B base ferts. That's basically what these are. Right?
pH Perfect® Micro
pH Perfect® Grow
pH Perfect® Bloom

I don't really get what pk13/14 are though.
Is that what this is? https://www.kelp4less.com/shop/bud-hardener/

They`re similar but 3 part ferts A&B are 2 part ferts and instead of the micro nuts, you usually get A&B that has all that in and does both bloom and veg. Tbh I'm a bit dubious if they will do what they say on packet ie: "ph perfect" . You coulda prolly got away just buying bloom and micro to do the whole grow, but hey tis no sweat now you got them.

PK13/14 is just that a pk boost thats cheap as owt and not overpriced like some, i think hammerhead by Advanced is a pk boost x5 times price, but you can use pk boost alongside vit/hormone/carbs etc type boosts (overdrive, big bud, canna boost and Green Planet > massive amongst many more) all contain lets call it the magic ingredient triacontanol and come under same banner, if you feel need to use them.

[TommyT]

I was looking up triacontanol and look what I found.
Lol from the same company kelp4less.

[Mustang92]

i've used Advanced Nuts long time ago before but i'm no expert.

B52- i believe the b52 is B1 and possible one of two acids or both: humic and fulvic acids , i use B1 vitamin and the acid components increase nutrient absorption and aid beneficial soil microbes so good. don't quote me on b52 having extra acids.

Voodoo juice- i think is just bacteria and more than likely more nitrogen, you may already have this in your soil, but still good stuff. you could bubble worm castings as well for bacteria. a carb load would be good too, sure AN sells a carb additive to feed microbes.



when i used AN i mixed in the extras on my own like 2 scoops suggested. but now i'm changing from that mixing approach and believe using what ever AN(or any nutrient company) suggests. when using any companies nutrients if you mix and match i believe you may also be leaving something else out by mistake. each company do there own ideas and you won't know what combinations they decided to mix together or not and might accidently leave something out mixing and matching. ******** this is just my opinion, do as you think best********************

they also have a mixing order for micro,grow,bloom . forget what it is but i always mix the higher nitrogen numbers first. ******* just my way of doing it, do what you think best.********

**** warning, these are just my opinions, many people have there ways of doing nutrients, what ever works for you is best way***********

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I was looking up triacontanol and look what I found.
Lol from the same company kelp4less.

Yes but tis more aimed at organic growers so may take a good while to break down before plant can use it, you can just buy things like rabbit or cattle feed pellets (alfalfa pellets) and smash them up and mix in same way, it will do exact same thing, me wonders how much a shed load of rabbit alfalfa meal pellet's are a sack full from pet shop. I use this it goes a very long way and use at 1 to 2ml per 10liters and cheap as chips. https://www.theplantgrowthcompany.com/i ... UD-BOOSTER

i've used Advanced Nuts long time ago before but i'm no expert.

B52- i believe the b52 is B1 and possible one of two acids or both: humic and fulvic acids , i use B1 vitamin and the acid components increase nutrient absorption and aid beneficial soil microbes so good. don't quote me on b52 having extra acids.

Voodoo juice- i think is just bacteria and more than likely more nitrogen, you may already have this in your soil, but still good stuff. you could bubble worm castings as well for bacteria. a carb load would be good too, sure AN sells a carb additive to feed microbes.



when i used AN i mixed in the extras on my own like 2 scoops suggested. but now i'm changing from that mixing approach and believe using what ever AN(or any nutrient company) suggests. when using any companies nutrients if you mix and match i believe you may also be leaving something else out by mistake. each company do there own ideas and you won't know what combinations they decided to mix together or not and might accidently leave something out mixing and matching. ******** this is just my opinion, do as you think best********************

they also have a mixing order for micro,grow,bloom . forget what it is but i always mix the higher nitrogen numbers first. ******* just my way of doing it, do what you think best.********

**** warning, these are just my opinions, many people have there ways of doing nutrients, what ever works for you is best way***********

Black strap molasses contains vitamin b6 and fulvic and kelp (seaweed juice) b1 and b2 and humic acids, you could get a liter of both for under a £10`ner or their about and use them once or twice weekly and both contain many more different vitamins, minerals and much more, will last you a lifetime, that`s a fact. They just want your cash and try filling us with flannel by talking shit. Maybe take some cutts and do a run using base ferts only after doing a grow with all snake oils they try to sell us all. See what difference is in end results hey, kinda do a comparison.

[Mustang92]

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